diff --git a/CHANGELOG.rst b/CHANGELOG.rst
index 1fa431d5f..2e6c1ebf3 100644
--- a/CHANGELOG.rst
+++ b/CHANGELOG.rst
@@ -9,6 +9,7 @@ This release fixes the following regressions identified in 4.1.0:
 - Stopped printing output that would cause a glitch on old versions of Midnight Commander (:issue:`11869`).
 - Added a fix for some configurations of Zellij where :kbd:`escape` key processing was delayed (:issue:`11868`).
 - Fixed a case where the :doc:`web-based configuration tool <cmds/fish_config>` would generate invalid configuration (:issue:`11861`).
+- Fixed a case where pasting into ``fish -c read`` would fail with a noisy error (:issue:`11836`).
 - Fixed a case where upgrading fish would break old versions of fish that were still running.
 
   In general, fish still needs to be restarted after it is upgraded,
diff --git a/src/builtins/commandline.rs b/src/builtins/commandline.rs
index 11c15816c..5b1aa301d 100644
--- a/src/builtins/commandline.rs
+++ b/src/builtins/commandline.rs
@@ -635,7 +635,7 @@ pub fn commandline(parser: &Parser, streams: &mut IoStreams, args: &mut [&wstr])
         transient = parser.libdata().transient_commandline.clone().unwrap();
         current_buffer = &transient;
         current_cursor_pos = transient.len();
-    } else if is_interactive_session() {
+    } else if parser.interactive_initialized.load() || is_interactive_session() {
         current_buffer = &rstate.text;
         current_cursor_pos = rstate.cursor_pos;
     } else {
diff --git a/src/builtins/complete.rs b/src/builtins/complete.rs
index 6cec441bf..70ab8b5bd 100644
--- a/src/builtins/complete.rs
+++ b/src/builtins/complete.rs
@@ -458,7 +458,7 @@ pub fn complete(parser: &Parser, streams: &mut IoStreams, argv: &mut [&wstr]) ->
             None => {
                 // No argument given, try to use the current commandline.
                 let commandline_state = commandline_get_state(true);
-                if !is_interactive_session() {
+                if !parser.interactive_initialized.load() && !is_interactive_session() {
                     streams.err.append(cmd);
                     streams
                         .err